Comments on: Race, gender, and comic books at the Hackenblog http://hackenblog.hackenbush.org/2007/07/30/race-gender-and-comic-books-at-the-hackenblog/ The New Hackenblog Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:19:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Lloyd Webber http://hackenblog.hackenbush.org/2007/07/30/race-gender-and-comic-books-at-the-hackenblog/#comment-1528 Lloyd Webber Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:22:58 +0000 http://hackenblog.hackenbush.org/2007/07/30/race-gender-and-comic-books-at-the-hackenblog/#comment-1528 You must live in that magical world where Blacks are treated with the utmost respect at the expenxe of all other groups. In this day and age, where Black characters are so few and far between, and well-written blacks even fewer, to speew the garbage you are is pretty back asswards. But then again white privilege can do that to a person. You must live in that magical world where Blacks are treated with the utmost respect at the expenxe of all other groups. In this day and age, where Black characters are so few and far between, and well-written blacks even fewer, to speew the garbage you are is pretty back asswards. But then again white privilege can do that to a person.

]]> By: Scott Anderson http://hackenblog.hackenbush.org/2007/07/30/race-gender-and-comic-books-at-the-hackenblog/#comment-1482 Scott Anderson Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:03:22 +0000 http://hackenblog.hackenbush.org/2007/07/30/race-gender-and-comic-books-at-the-hackenblog/#comment-1482 Maybe I’m just being dopey, but I don’t see the problem. I have many times seen feminist comic readers say that just as the racist caricatures of comics have become a thing of the past so should the caricatures of women that overemphasize female features. In this post, you seem to be suggesting that the depictions of women should follow a similar path and that the features of Blacks have become realistic than those of women. There is certainly a lot of evidence of that, like the pictures you posted. If you’d like a piece of advice, the problem isn’t that you are wrong; so much as you are threatening someone’s victim status. Some people hate that. I’ll tell you what, as a gay man, I’ll let you say that depictions of gay characters have come further along than those of women, and I won’t get cranky about it. Maybe I’m just being dopey, but I don’t see the problem. I have many times seen feminist comic readers say that just as the racist caricatures of comics have become a thing of the past so should the caricatures of women that overemphasize female features. In this post, you seem to be suggesting that the depictions of women should follow a similar path and that the features of Blacks have become realistic than those of women. There is certainly a lot of evidence of that, like the pictures you posted.

If you’d like a piece of advice, the problem isn’t that you are wrong; so much as you are threatening someone’s victim status. Some people hate that. I’ll tell you what, as a gay man, I’ll let you say that depictions of gay characters have come further along than those of women, and I won’t get cranky about it.

]]> By: Ragnell http://hackenblog.hackenbush.org/2007/07/30/race-gender-and-comic-books-at-the-hackenblog/#comment-1473 Ragnell Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:40:27 +0000 http://hackenblog.hackenbush.org/2007/07/30/race-gender-and-comic-books-at-the-hackenblog/#comment-1473 You seem to have missed the meat of both comments. Willow's pretty clearly upset because the problem was so much worse with African-American characters, and there are still unbelievable problems with African-American characters in all forms of media, and your comparison is sweeping that under the rug in favor of supporting your own personal agenda, which is examining gender discrimination. You are <i><b>putting down</b> her concerns to prop up yours</i>. That is a problem. Meanwhile, Betty was basically telling you to avoid this comparison, its useless and all it does is set people against each other. With this clarification attempt, you persist with the comparison. Why? You seem to have missed the meat of both comments.

Willow’s pretty clearly upset because the problem was so much worse with African-American characters, and there are still unbelievable problems with African-American characters in all forms of media, and your comparison is sweeping that under the rug in favor of supporting your own personal agenda, which is examining gender discrimination. You are putting down her concerns to prop up yours. That is a problem.

Meanwhile, Betty was basically telling you to avoid this comparison, its useless and all it does is set people against each other. With this clarification attempt, you persist with the comparison. Why?

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